- this article gives a good example of a bad translation
The Comma Johanneum
This is an addition to Scripture that is so famous and hence so well known that it has even been given its own name. The Comma Johanneum is a comma (short clause) in 1 John 5:7-8 which is the “only” passage in the entire Bible that says all three are one without assumptions or unbiblical human logic. The King James Version reads as follows, “For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. 8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.” 1 John 5:7-8
The trinitarian's Piltdown Man
A Spurious Reference to the Trinity Added in 1 John 5: 7-85
by United Church of God
Many of the "biblical" verses used by Trinitarians are either mistranslations or outright forgeries. You have to understand that the Scriptures have been translated and transcribed numerous times over the centuries from the original Greek . The Bible, as it is written now, is tainted. There have been instances where the Catholic church intentionally added, removed or altered some passages in Scripture. Take for instance 1 John5:7-8.
1 John 5:7, For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit: and these three are one.5:8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
1 John 5:7 ὅτι τρεῖς εἰσιν οἱ μαρτυροῦντες ἐν τῷ οὐρανῷ, ὁ πατὴρ, ὁ λόγος, καὶ τὸ ἅγιον πνεῦμα καὶ οὗτοι οἱ τρεῖς ἕν εἰσιν
5:8 καὶ τρεῖς εἰσιν οἱ μαρτυροῦντες ἐν τῇ γῇ, τὸ πνεῦμα, καὶ τὸ ὕδωρ, καὶ τὸ αἷμα καὶ οἱ τρεῖς εἰς τὸ ἕν εἰσιν
Some Bible translators of past centuries were so zealous to find support for their belief in the Trinity in the Scriptures that they literally added it. A case in point is 1 John 5:7-8. It reads in the King James Version, also known as the Authorized Version: “For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.” The words in italics are simply not a part of the generally accepted New Testament manuscripts. Regrettably, in this particular passage some other versions read essentially the same.
Most Bible commentaries that mention this addition tell us that it is a spurious comment added to the biblical text. Consider the words of The New Bible Commentary: Revised: “Notice that AV [the Authorized Version] includes additional material at this point. But the words are clearly a gloss [an added note] and are rightly excluded by RSV [the Revised Standard Version] even from its margins” (1970, p. 1269). In the New Revised Standard Version, 1 John 5:7-8 correctly and more concisely reads, “There are three that testify: the Spirit and the water and the blood, and these three agree.” John personifies the three elements here as providing testimony, just as Solomon personified wisdom in the book of Proverbs.
Many other more recent Bible versions likewise recognize the spurious added text and omit it, including the New International Version, American Standard Version and New American Standard Bible, English Standard Version, New English Bible and Revised English Bible, New American Bible, Jerusalem Bible and New Jerusalem Bible, Good News Bible, New Living Translation, Holman Christian Standard Bible, Bible in Basic English and the Twentieth Century New Testament.
“The textual evidence is against 1 John 5:7,” explains Dr. Neil Lightfoot, a New Testament professor. “Of all the Greek manuscripts, only two contain it. These two manuscripts are of very late dates, one from the fourteenth or fifteenth century and the other from the sixteenth century. Two other manuscripts have this verse written in the margin. All four manuscripts show that this verse was apparently translated from a late form of the Latin Vulgate” ( How We Got the Bible, 2003, pp. 100-101). The Expositor’s Bible Commentary also dismisses the King James and New King James Versions’ additions in 1 John 5:7-8 as “obviously a late gloss with no merit” (Glenn Barker, Vol. 12, 1981, p. 353). Peake’s Commentary on the Bible is very incisive in its comments as well: “The famous interpolation after ‘three witnesses’ is not printed in RSV and rightly [so] . . . No respectable Greek [manuscript] contains it. Appearing first in a late 4th century Latin text, it entered the Vulgate [the 5th-century Latin version, which became the common medieval translation] and finally NT [New Testament] of Erasmus [who produced newly collated Greek texts and a new Latin version in the 16th century]” (p. 1038).
The Big Book of Bible Difficulties tells us: “This verse has virtually no support among the early Greek manuscripts . . . Its appearance in late Greek manuscripts is based on the fact that Erasmus was placed under ecclesiastical pressure to include it in his Greek NT of 1522, having omitted it in his two earlier editions of 1516 and 1519 because he could not find any Greek manuscripts which contained it” (Norman Geisler and Thomas Howe, 2008, pp. 540-541). Theology professors Anthony and Richard Hanson, in their book Reasonable Belief: A Survey of the Christian Faith, explain the unwarranted addition to the text this way: “It was added by some enterprising person or persons in the ancient Church who felt that the New Testament was sadly deficient in direct witness to the kind of doctrine of the Trinity which he favoured and who determined to remedy that defect … It is a waste of time to attempt to read Trinitarian doctrine directly off the pages of the New Testament” (1980, p. 171).
Still, even the added wording does not by itself proclaim the Trinity doctrine. The addition, illegitimate though it is, merely presents Father, Word and Holy Spirit as witnesses. This says nothing about the personhood of all three since verse 7 shows inanimate water and blood serving as such. Again, the word Trinity did not come into common use as a religious term until after the Council of Nicaea in A.D. 325, several centuries after the last books of the New Testament were complete. It is not a biblical concept.
Editors note : I think the lesson here is that you shouldn’t believe everything you read – instead we should do like the Berean Jews who examined the scriptures daily:Now these Jews were more noble than those in Thessalonica; they received the word with all eagerness, examining the Scriptures daily to see if these things were so.
In the Comma Johanneum, we can see how church admits inventing and adding idea of trinity in 1john5:7-8 . Hundreds of other words, ideas and creed are taken to be biblical which are not found anywhere in original koine Greek NT scriptures. Martin Luther and Erasmus rejected this pagan roman church addition but it was forced back in even by Protestants...bizarre.
If the doctrine of the Trinity is so fundamental to Christianity, as Trinitarians claim, why is there a complete failure on the part of Jesus or his apostles to articulate it anywhere? Is the word hypostasis synonymous with the English word "person"? If not, why are you using the word "person" to describe your doctrine? If so, please define the word "person." Is it true to say that for Christians the one God is the Triune God or the one God is the Father? What would be the quality or characteristic feature that would determine that multiple identities are not one God but multiple gods?
Only recently have bible scholars been able to uncover these forgeries and mistranslations. Do your research and you will find out.
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Matthew 28:19
by Real Discoveries
Many Trinitarians tsay that Matthew 28:19 proves the trinity:
Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.
Matthew 28:19. English Standard Version.
There are Bible scholars who believe that Matthew 28:19 is another forgery, and that the original words said by Jesus only feature the line: “Go ye and make disciples of all the nations in my name.” (Jesus). The scholars believe that this has been changed by adding in ‘The Father and The Holy Spirit’. But how can we be sure that Matthew 28:19 is, in fact, another forgery? Remember to follow the example of the Berean Jews, and to search the scriptures daily, as Jesus confirmed: We will find if we seek. Matthew 7:7. With that in mind, when we search the scriptures, what do we find wrong with Matthew 28:19?
There is not one single account written in the Bible of Jesus’ disciples and the first Christians baptizing in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. Instead, every scripture we read in the New Testament reveals that people were baptized into the name of the Lord Jesus only.So what do you think? Well, let’s have a look and see (the following are all from the English Standard Version).
For he had not yet fallen on any of them, but they had only been baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. Acts 8:16.
On hearing this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. Acts 19:5.
And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.” Acts 2:38.
And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. Then they asked him to remain for some days. Acts 10:48
As we can clearly see, the baptizing was only done in the name of Jesus, not the Father nor the Holy Spirit.
Even more evidence can be found in the fact that Saint Jerome had access to a copy of the original Hebrew of Matthew’s Gospel. (This has been taken from the book, A Catalogue of Fathers of the Church and Ecclesiastical Writers to the Fifteenth Century, published in 1850 by C.J. Stewart). In this original Gospel, all that is recorded is the following: “Go ye and make disciples of all the nations in my name.” (Jesus). As we can clearly see, yet again the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are missing.
Why and who changed the scriptures by adding in: ‘of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit’, which was clearly there just to promote the trinity doctrine?
“Many Jesus' Name believers claim the development of baptism "in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost" is a post-Apostolic interpolation and corruption. Some claim that the "Trinitarian" clause in Matthew 28:19 was added to Matthew's text in the 2nd/3rd century.[4] They cite as evidence that no record exists in the New Testament of someone being baptized with the Trinitarian formula.
4. Matthew 28:19 text, Baptism in the New Testament, G.R. Beasley-Murray, p 83.” (Wikipedia).
As far as I am aware, 1 John 5:7 and Matthew 28:19 are the two main forgeries that have been discovered so far against the trinity.
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